5 Very Simple Yet Very Common Grammatical Mistakes of Filipinos Part 1

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  1. I’d like to post an exchange (on Facebook; I posted the link of this entry on my FB account and it’s where he commented) between me and a family friend regarding “equipments”. If you are a grammar addict, read on. If not, you have been warned.

    Donnie M. Tulud: ‎”equipments” is already acceptable based on descriptive grammar
    11 hours ago · Like

    Dewmaine Sales-Ladaga: Hi Donnie! Sadly, I’m not a fan of descriptive grammar. In fact, I almost hate it: in my arrogant (hehe) opinion, it just proliferates wrong grammar…it’s an easy way out when one incurs a grammatical error (“Oh, many websites on Google use this.”) While I admit it has its merits (the “their” as a singular pronoun, most notably), it does more harm than good. If they call it an idiom or an expression, pwede na rin. Obviously, I’m a Prescriptive Grammar fan…hardcore! I guess it’s because I’m more of a standardized exam teacher rather than a seasoned speaker or blogger thus my penchant on the “real” grammar rules.
    4 hours ago · Like · 3 people

    Donnie M. Tulud: yup te … it’s sometimes abused tlga… but some native english speakers like our speaker from australia about TESOL do not mind such errors especially among ESL countries because for them the most important thing is “comprehensible” english–our own english is our identity as a nation; thus, we dont need to pretend and aim for perfection that we can speak the language fluently/perfectly…kasi even them, native englsh speakers, commit the same mistakes,, how much more us ESL speakers.. ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS inconsistent, it has no established rules.
    about an hour ago · Like

    Donnie M. Tulud: pero ibang usapan na tlga te kung super duper obvious na ang mali like sa subject verb agreement..
    about an hour ago · Like

    Donnie M. Tulud: the use of their as an adverb or expletives or there as a pronoun and contraction form of nominative they and verb are

    Dewmaine Sales-Ladaga: The thing Donnie is, who has the authority to draw the line between accepted and unaccepted? Can an ordinary English teacher do it? Can an ordinary native English speaker do it? Or does it have to be someone who has a doctorate in linguistics? Of course, the English language has so many loopholes and I agree that even native speakers incur mistakes (in the same way that most of us Filipinos do not even know when to use “ng” and “nang”…we just often use “ng”…can we say that in descriptive balarila, “ng” is an acceptable substitute for when “nang” is what’s needed?). But since we are borrowing the English language, let’s take good care of it.
    22 minutes ago · Like

    Dewmaine Sales-Ladaga: I guess ESL teachers (technically, I’m an ESL teacher because I teach Filipinos but let’s call a spade a spade: iba’ng level ng mga Pinoy sa English thus more is expected from us) would describe my teaching as nitpicking; after all, the primary goal of ESL teachers is for their students to understand and communicate using the English language; things will just get complicated if you automatically insert the “hard and confusing stuff” while a beginner is learning. But, like I’ve mentioned, I teach English for students to ace standardized exams (UPCAT, ACET, etc.). Thus, what’s inculcated in my mind is to follow prescriptive grammar rules (aka formal English), which states that “equipment” is always singular. I can’t tell my class that there’s such thing as descriptive grammar because believe me, they’re going to tell me, “Teacher nakita ko po sa ganyan blah blah blah”, “Ma’am I heard an American say blah blah blah.” For what for (wrong expression intended; I just love it!) pa ang lessons namin kung ia-argue nila yun ‘di ba? Heck, if I were one of my own students, I’d tell my teacher: “E ‘di gumawa na lang tayo ng concensus or signature campaign that we want to accept ‘The boy go to school.’ Or I’d make a campaign for all of my friends to use that sentence until it becomes so common that descriptive grammar will accept it.
    Hay, kala siguro ng mga bata mani-mani lang ang English. Hehe. Peace Donnie. I appreciate your post; it made me think hard. Can we post this on the blog itself? Para kahit hindi natin friends, mabasa. Again, I’m not saying that descriptive grammar is absolutely wrong. All I’m saying that my audience doesn’t need it, and I’m not a fan of it.
    7 minutes ago · Like

  2. To add to my comment, there are times when I concede to descriptive grammar; when the explanation has a point, I would concede. These are the things I conceded to:

    1. “their” as a third person singular pronoun as it implies that both genders are possible: Esteemed writing styles like the MLA, APA and Chicago accept it. But what convinced was the fact that “he” isn’t really gender neutral, as illustrated in the examples I read from http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com:

    *At the funeral, everyone was dressed to the nines, each wearing “his” swankest tie or nicest dress.
    *Is it your brother or your sister who can hold “his” breath for four minutes?

    I don’t think any one of the two is acceptable.

    2. My friend is taller than “him”: I checked new dictionaries and they say that “than” functions both as a preposition and as a conjunction. Thus, IMHO, “than” in the sentence I gave functions as a preposition because what follows it is a pronoun (it it were followed by a clause, it would have been a conjunction). While some might argue that the sentence “My friend is taller than him” actually is a shortcut for “My friend is taller than he is [than is now followed by a clause]”, but then, why would we dwell on the fact that there may be an implied “is” after than when the sentence clearly shows that “than” was a preposition? Let me quote a certain Vic’s post on http://www.dailywritingtips.com, responding to whether or not “…a girl like ME is correct”

    Vic on July 13, 2009 2:28 pm
    I always thought that with the word “like” there is an implied ending. Clearly, if you say “a girl like I,” the word “am” is implied. If it’s not implied, then it would seem that “me” would be the correct word. What if we substituted the words “similar to” for “like”? Then it would be “a girl similar to me.” Or would it? It seems logical because the word “to” creates an object and not a subject. In “a girl like I,” which is the subject, and which is the object? It seems like “girl” is the object, so wouldn’t this make “me” the logical choice as the object?

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    Ano, nosebleed? Harhar

  3. nice. maganda itong mission mo na ito. ika nga ni darlene english is a borrowed language, so we better use it properly. i admit marami akong mali-mali sa english pero pag may mga ganito na-appreciate ko kasi natututo ako at naita-tama ko. sana madalas kang mag-grammarian sa TM at mag-share ka ng grammar lesson sa educ portion.
    puwede bang isama mo na rin yung pag-gamit ng ‘apostrophe s’ pati na rin ‘apostrophe z’. very common yan sa mga signage ng mga pinoy. gusto ko ngang kuhanan ng picture minsan e. kaso walang time.

    • Hi Ms. Bing! Thank you. Gusto ko nga Grammarian para madali sa akin. And yes, I’d love to teach grammar on the Educ Portion para wala nang effort sa akin. I really want to do my 2nd speech but I’m having trouble thinking of a topic wherein I could incorporate chronology.

      Thank you again for commenting and see you on the next meeting (can’t attend today, sorry)! 🙂

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  6. love this,too,dew! nagkalat talaga mga wrong grammar sa mundo.yung iba pa,anlakas sobra ng loob magblog! gosh talaga!!!
    me,i would never fall for a guy na wrong grammar! IT MATTERS.i know mine is not perfect but i guess it is close to! hahaha 🙂
    make a part 2 of this please.enjoyed it! i love the EXPLANATION PAG DI MO PA RIN GETS part! hahaha! 🙂

    P.S. feel free to correct me anytime. 🙂

    • Hi Joy! Yup, major turnoff ang guys na mali ang grammar. I’m not asking for one with impeccable grammar pero yung mga tipong “I’ll gonna”, toinks! Haha.
      At mas natawa ako sa hirit mo na: “yung iba pa,anlakas sobra ng loob magblog! gosh talaga!!!” I could just imagine you rolling your eyes while thinking of them, sabay smirk. Tama ba?

      Actually it took me some time before deciding to make a blog, kasi nga I teach language proficiency. One wrong grammar here and BOOM, baka sira agad ang credibility ko. Ako pa naman, type and publish agad. Parang ayokong i-edit, parang hindi na mula sa puso. But writing is my first love…yung teaching, acquired taste. So what the heck, blog na rin ako. Like you said, andami ngang iba jan na talagang parang Morse code ang binabasa mo sa hirap i-decipher.

      Thanks for appreciating this! Actually may nagawa na akong similar dito, here’s the link: https://momsterteacher.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/the-grammar-police-super-duper-to-the-max-repetitive-redundant-expressions/

      And Joy, in fairness OK ang grammar mo. Nothing for me to correct 🙂

    • Hi Joy! Yup, major turnoff ang guys na mali ang grammar. I’m not asking for one with impeccable grammar pero yung mga tipong “I’ll gonna”, toinks! Haha.
      At mas natawa ako sa hirit mo na: “yung iba pa,anlakas sobra ng loob magblog! gosh talaga!!!” I could just imagine you rolling your eyes while thinking of them, sabay smirk. Tama ba?

      Actually it took me some time before deciding to make a blog, kasi nga I teach language proficiency. One wrong grammar here and BOOM, baka sira agad ang credibility ko. Ako pa naman, type and publish agad. Parang ayokong i-edit, parang hindi na mula sa puso. But writing is my first love…yung teaching, acquired taste. So what the heck, blog na rin ako. Like you said, andami ngang iba jan na talagang parang Morse code ang binabasa mo sa hirap i-decipher ng mga isinusulat.

      Thanks for appreciating this! Actually may nagawa na akong similar dito, here’s the link: https://momsterteacher.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/the-grammar-police-super-duper-to-the-max-repetitive-redundant-expressions/

      And Joy, in fairness OK ang grammar mo. Nothing for me to correct 🙂

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